Welcome once again to the Café. Today we have with us author Eric Stone,
whose latest book came out on September 18th, 2007 and is published by Bleak
House Books. So grab yourself a cup of coffee and enjoy.
CAFÉ:
What is the title of your latest book?
ERIC:
GRAVE IMPORTS. It is a Detective thriller.
CAFÉ:
Tell us a little bit about it?
ERIC:
I was a journalist in Asia for 11 years, and the book is loosely based on a
story that I covered. It’s a novel, but it’s based on the facts of the trade in
looted Cambodian antiquities during the mid-1990s when the remnants of the Khmer
Rouge were heavily involved in the activity. The action starts in Hong Kong,
moves to southern China, then to Thailand and finally the trail of corruption
leads to the ancient temples and palaces, and killing fields of
Cambodia.
CAFÉ:
Sounds like a very interesting plot. How long have you been writing?:
ERIC:
Since I could. My first paid writing job was with a small underground
newspaper in Los Angeles in 1968. I worked as a journalist – both a writer and a
photographer – from the time I graduated college in 1974 until only recently
when I started writing books full time.
CAFÉ:
When did your first novel come out?
ERIC:
The first novel, THE LIVING ROOM OF THE DEAD, came out in 2005. LIVING ROOM
was also based on a true story from when I was a journalist in Asia. The story
is that a British lawyer living in Hong Kong, fell in love with a Russian
prostitute in Macau (which is an hour away by ferry.) They decided to buy her
out of her contract with the Russian mafia. That was a very big mistake and big
ugliness ensued. The book is fiction, but roughly about that. It’s also
generally about the trade in Russian women to Asia.
CAFÉ:
Looks like your work as a journalist has provided you with a multitude of
book ideas.
Have you always written mysteries and thrillers? If not what else have you
written?
ERIC:
I was a journalist for most of my life and while there was some detecting and
investigation involved, I can’t quite get away with calling that writing
mysteries. My first book was non-fiction. It also came out in 2005 and was
titled WRONG SIDE OF THE WALL. It’s a sort of true crime/sports biography of a
man named Blackie Schwamb. In the 1940s he was a major league baseball player.
But in the off season he was a gangster in Los Angeles. In 1949 he committed a
murder, was caught and sentenced to life in prison. He became famous playing
baseball in San Quentin and Folsom prisons during the 1950s.
CAFÉ:
I may have to find that one for my husband. He prefers non-fiction and is a
sports fan. It sounds very interesting.
What brought you to choose the setting and characters in your latest book?
ERIC:
Having lived in Asia for 11 years, and having worked in nearly every Asian
country during that time, I see the region as a goldmine of fascinating and
thrilling stories. I was also there during a time of tremendous transition –
1986 to 1997 – when the old traditions were fighting it out with the forces of
modern development, for both good and bad. The contrasts and ironies of daily
life were raw and apparent and a perfect setting for thrillers that deal with
big issues, but in the guise of telling smaller, more personal stories.
That said, I can’t claim to know Asia, or any one Asian country, as a native
of that place would. I was always an outsider and saw things as an outsider. But
I think that’s true also in most detective fiction. The detective has something
about him or her that sets them apart from the world they are living in. My
character, Ray Sharp, starts as a business journalist in the first book. (Which
to that extent, is somewhat autobiographical.) In the second book I have him
take a job with a corporate investigation firm because that gives him more
leeway to actually act on things, rather than simply observe and report on
them.
As a character, Ray has a great deal of respect for the cultures in which he
operates, but he also has a strongly developed personal sense of right and wrong
and sometimes he finds those two things in conflict with each other. He’s dogged
and determined and loyal to a fault, but he’s a regular guy, filled with a lot
of ordinary confusion and contradictions and misgivings. He kind of stumbles his
way to doing the right thing and solving the problems he’s faced with. He’s much
more of an everyman, than a superman. Which I find a lot more interesting in a
character. I much prefer a flawed character who manages to sometimes do some
good, than any sort of perfect human who always does good.
CAFÉ:
What is the main reason that you write?
ERIC:
After breathing and eating, it feels like the most natural thing I do. I’ve
always done it, since I was a little kid and used to make up stories. I just
can’t imagine not doing it. I’ve been very lucky in that I have been able to
make a living at it, and lately having been in a position where for a while at
least I don’t have to make a living at it. For most of us, writing books is not
terribly lucrative. Financially, my future would be a lot more secure if I had a
real skill, like plumbing. But even if I had a job that kept me otherwise
occupied for 18 hours a day, I’d have to write every day, even if it was only
for an hour. It’s a very bad addiction.
CAFÉ:
So many writers seem to almost start writing at birth.
Do you write to entertain or is there something more you want the readers to
take away from your work?
ERIC:
Both, but it starts with entertaining the reader. I don’t think anyone is
going to take away anything worthwhile from my books if they aren’t initially
entertained by them. I like to think that my books deal with big, important,
global issues in an intelligent, but entertaining way. I love it when my books
make people think, or in a few cases even, act on something. But if they don’t,
and all someone gets out of them is a fun read, I’m also glad that I’ve managed
to entertain someone.
CAFÉ:
Do you have a schedule for your writing or just write whenever you can?
ERIC:
I write every day. Usually in the morning. By afternoon my brain is swimming
with too many other sorts of thoughts, so it’s hard to be as creative. I usually
save the afternoons for research and editing.
CAFÉ:
Do you outline? If not, do you have some other interesting way that you keep
track of what’s going on, or what needs to happen in your book when you are
writing it?
ERIC:
I don’t outline. I tried it once and didn’t like it. I felt like the outline
inhibited my writing. How I’ve written each book has been a little different.
THE LIVING ROOM OF THE DEAD was based on a true story with an actual beginning,
middle and end, so I knew where it was going and roughly how it was going to get
there. I just had to make up a lot of the details to give it context and content
and characters – as well as make it fiction. GRAVE IMPORTS on the other hand is
based on the facts of something, but I had to make up a story to showcase those
facts and to use my ongoing series character. The third book in the series,
FLIGHT OF THE HORNBILL, that will be out next Fall, is also based on a true
story, but one that didn’t have an ending in real life, so I had to concoct
parts of the story and fill in details and all sorts of stuff.
I do write myself notes sometimes, and I keep an informal running list of
characters with some basics about them that help me keep them straight, but it’s
pretty loose. By the time I get about halfway through a book it has usually
taken on a lot of momentum and the story has developed an internal logic that
pretty much dictates what’s going to have to happen next. By the time a book
gets to the last third or so, I usually feel like it’s pretty much writing
itself and I’m just taking dictation.
CAFÉ:
If you had your ideal, what time of day would you prefer to write?
ERIC:
I wish I was more of a morning person. As is, I’m usually up by about seven
and writing by about 7:30 or eight, but if it wasn’t for the fact that I’m often
up reading until one in the morning or later, I’d happily get up around five or
six to start writing.
CAFÉ:
Do you have a day job?
ERIC:
Luckily not at the moment. I’m writing fulltime.
CAFÉ:
Did you find it difficult to get published in the beginning?
ERIC:
I’ve almost always been paid and published, as a journalist, so in one sense,
no. When I decided to start writing books, I found an agent after a mere nine
query letters. It then took him 28 rejections before he found a publisher for my
first book – the non-fiction one. The first novel was very easy. I sent it to a
friend who is a writer to ask his opinion of it. I didn’t know it at the time,
but he was also an editor at St. Martins. He made an offer on the book and that
was that.
CAFÉ:
Do you have a great rejection/critique or acceptance story you’d like to
share?
ERIC:
I always read my reviews and I even appreciate the bad ones – if they’re
intelligent that is. When LIVING ROOM OF THE DEAD came out, two different
reviews, one good and one bad, had the same criticism. They pointed out that
something important in the plot was dependent on what they thought was too big
of a coincidence. I realized that it was a problem of my knowing too much about
the area I was writing about. At one point, the hero gets knocked out and then
wakes up on a fishing boat that just so happens to be very near to an island
that he has been wanting to get to. The problem was that I know that if someone
was thrown onto a fishing boat in the harbor where the scene happened, the most
likely place for that boat to end up would, in real life, be right around that
island. That’s where the main fishing grounds are. But the reader didn’t know
that. They just thought it was a big coincidence. Luckily I was able to add
three sentences to the book for the paperback edition that set up the reason for
that happening. So a big thank you goes out, even to the guy who wrote me the
bad review.
CAFÉ:
What kind of promotion do you find most affective?
ERIC:
I’m still trying to figure that out. I just try and do as much as I can of
every sort of promotion. In October and November I’ll be on a very big book tour
– 19 cities – and I actually really enjoy that. I like driving and I drive from
place to place. Even if you do an event at a store and no one shows up, it’s
still just fun hanging out and talking with the bookstore people, getting to
know them. And that in turn leads to them being more likely to help promote your
book. I’m always dropping in at bookstores to introduce myself, even when I
don’t have an event. It is a partnership between writers, publishers and
bookstores, after all. When I do have events I try to make them a little more
interesting than just me sitting there reading. I have a PowerPoint presentation
of photos from the places I write about, along with strange pop music from those
places. I try to find unusual snacks in Asian markets to have at the events as
well. I’ve been experimenting with more online activities as well. Other than a
publishing company paying for your book to be on one of the display "ladders" at
the front of a store though, or maybe an appearance on The Daily Show or Oprah,
I don’t know that there is any one thing that is guaranteed to be
effective.
CAFÉ:
I think making your book signings more unique is a good way to go. Do you
have a most interesting book signing story — in a bookstore or other venue?
ERIC:
It’s a small world story. I was at The Mystery Bookstore in Los Angeles for
their annual party. One of the other writers there was Martin Limon, whose books
I really like and who I’d always wanted to meet. He was there with his father.
His father had grown up in the area of Los Angeles where Blackie Schwamb, the
killer baseball player I’d written the biography of, had done a lot of his work
as a gangster. We were talking and Martin’s father mentioned that he used to be
a bartender at a burlesque house called The Colony Club. He said, "you’re too
young, you probably never heard of the place." I told him that, to the contrary,
I’d written about it since it was the place where Blackie’s murder victim had
met up with the friends of Blackie’s on the night of the murder. Martin’s father
and I started working things out, and it became apparent that there is a good
chance that Martin’s father served Blackie Schwamb’s murder victim one of the
last cocktails he ever had, just an hour or so before he was murdered.
CAFÉ:
Wow, don’t hear stories like that very often.
What are your future writing goals?
ERIC:
I’m really enjoying writing a series set in Asia and based on true stories. I
love the chance to develop a character over time. I’ve already written the third
book and it will be out next fall. I’ve also got the basic plots worked out for
books four and five and I’m looking forward to that. Especially since it will
mean I need to spend a month or so in Shanghai (one of my favorite cities) for
research. I’m also working on my first standalone novel, which I hope will be
the first of a trilogy of Los Angeles novels. This one is set in 1946 around the
jazz clubs along Central Avenue in Southcental L.A. I’m also batting around some
more ideas for non-fiction. I’d hate for my journalistic skills to get too
rusty.
CAFÉ:
Keep us posted on the jazz club one—I love jazz.
Do you have any heroes?
ERIC:
None really. I admire ordinary people who from time to time achieve
extraordinary things. And I also admire ordinary people who just go about living
their lives the best they can, doing what they need to do to make life better
for the people around them; a hardworking mom and dad, an immigrant doing a
crummy job and sending money home to their family. Those are the sorts of people
I think of as heroic.
CAFÉ:
Is there a person you would most like to meet dead or alive?
ERIC:
Only one? Hmmmmm. Emma Goldman, I suppose. She was probably the most modern,
far-sighted person of the late 1800s and early 1900s, and everything I’ve read
about her makes me think she’d be great to sit around and talk with.
CAFÉ:
What do you read?
ERIC:
I probably read more non-fiction than fiction. A lot of 20th Century
history and biography, also economics and some of those science for those of us
who can’t do math type books. In fiction, I read a lot of crime novels. I guess
they’d mostly be noir or hardboiled. I’m always interested in books set in Asia
because it’s a particular interest of mine. My all time favorite book is Moby
Dick and I reread it about every ten years or so.
CAFÉ:
What are your hobbies?
ERIC:
I take a lot of pictures. In the past I’ve worked as a photographer, but
since I don’t do it professionally anymore I guess it qualifies as a hobby. I
love to cook, especially different types of Asian food, and I love discovering
new ethnic markets to do my shopping at and unusual restaurants to try. I’m an
inveterate urban explorer. I spend way more time than is a good idea – what with
global warming and all – simply driving around and poking my nose into new and
different neighborhoods in whatever city I find myself in. I love to travel,
preferably to places where they don’t speak English so that I can practice my
other than linguistic communication skills.
CAFÉ:
Favorite TV or movies?
ERIC:
My tastes are pretty eclectic. Among my favorite movies are: Battle of
Algiers, King Kong (the original), Ali – Fear Eats the Soul, The Killer (the
John Woo, Chow Yun Fat movie), Painted Faces (another HK movie), Christine, The
Big Heat, Badlands, Once Upon a Time in America and a slew of others. On TV that
I currently like are: Weeds, Big Love, Dexter, Lucky Louie. In the past: NYPD
Blue, The Sopranos, Six Feet Under, Prime Suspect (all of them), another BBC
crime drama called The Vice.
CAFÉ:
Any pets?
ERIC:
We had a huge cat named Loki. He died a couple of years ago. Now I like to
think of the raccoons, coyotes, possums and skunks that inhabit our backyard as
my low-maintenance pets. I can enjoy watching them, but I don’t have to feed
them or anything.
CAFÉ:
Family?
ERIC:
I live with Eva. We’ve lived together for nine years. We were both married
once before and got divorced, so we haven’t bothered getting married so far, but
it feels like the same to us. We don’t have kids, but we cherish our role as
everybody’s favorite eccentric aunt and uncle.
CAFÉ:
What part of the country/world do you live in?
ERIC:
Los Angeles, in a hilly neighborhood between downtown and Hollywood, called
Silverlake.
CAFÉ:
Any advice for aspiring or beginning writers?
ERIC:
WRITE! It might seem obvious, but you just have to sit down, every single day
if you can – and if you can’t, then on some other consistent basis – and write,
even if it’s only an hour a day. Even if what you write on any given day is
terrible and you hate it. You still have to do it. You need to make it a job, an
addiction, a habit.
And you also need to know when to stop. The real enemy of new writers is
tweaking. They always seem to think that they can make everything, just this one
paragraph, or that sentence, perfect before they send it off into the world.
Make it as good as you can, but know when to stop and let someone else look it
over. It’s never going to be perfect anyhow, no matter who you are, no matter
how good a writer you are, if you are a real writer, the next book, article,
poem, whatever is always going to be better. Or at least that’s what you need to
keep telling yourself.
Write what you want. If you try to write what you think other people are
going to want, it won’t be as good. And know what you’re writing. You don’t have
to know it when you start, but you have to do your research so that it’s obvious
you know it by the time you finish.
And, find a good agent. Someone you enjoy working with. I’ve had one very big
name, super well known agent and he and I didn’t get along very well. So we
couldn’t do each other much good. I now have a smaller-fry of an agent and we
get along famously and are doing each other plenty of good.
CAFÉ:
Website?
ERIC:
www.ericstone.com
CAFÉ:
Where can people purchase your books?
ERIC:
At most good, local bookstores. If they don’t have it, have them order it for
you. Most mystery bookstores online also carry my books, as do Barnes &
Noble and Borders, both online and in some of their stores. As does Amazon. In
order of preference, I prefer that people buy my books from: their local,
independent bookstore; a mystery or other independent bookstore online; their
nearest Barnes & Noble or Borders or other chain bookstore; and lastly
Amazon. (I like Amazon. I buy books from them myself sometimes, but smaller,
local bookstores are struggling to survive and need our help.)
CAFÉ:
We have a new tradition here at the Café — that is asking authors about their
favorite coffees and coffee shops. Can you tell me about yours?
ERIC:
I drink espresso, usually doubles, sometimes triples. I have a great French
espresso machine at home — the brand name is Francis Francis — which never
ceases to amuse me. I tried all sorts of fancy, fresh roasted, organic this and
that brands of coffee to use in it. Finally I just asked my favorite Cuban
restaurant what coffee they use for their espresso — because it's my favorite in
Los Angeles (a Cuban restaurant on Sunset Blvd. in Silverlake called El
Cochinito.) They use plain old, canned La Llave coffee that you can find cheap
in almost any supermarket. I started using it and it works perfectly.
CAFÉ:
Thanks so much for being here with us at the Café. Best of luck with the new
book.